Posted on April 17, 2018


# Please introduce each other.

Kim: You don’t need to know him really, but I’ll introduce him anyway. This is Heonjin Ha, a hobo who used to play the guitar at the Duriban protest concerts. Through that, as well as some kind of luck, he ended up in good company, and now he is a blues guitarist. Everyone knows me, so there’s no need for him to do an introduction.

Ha: No one cares about the drummer… the vocalist always gets the spotlight. This is Ganji Kim. He is currently playing for Sultan Of The Disco and Bulnabang Star Sausage Club… and... yeah, that’s about it.


# How would you describe Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin?

Ha: Us?

Kim: A two-piece… an acoustic band.

Ha: Why do you keep calling us acoustic? How should I put this…

Kim: A two-piece CCM (contemporary Christian music) band…Well, we are a two-piece blues band, consisting of drums and guitar.


# How did you guys come to know one another and end up playing together?

Ha: It was…When was it? 2011?

Kim: Heonjin used to sell his self-produced solo album which he recorded with his iPhone through Twitter. I ended up buying two of them. I told him, “if we get a chance some day, we should definitely play together.”  Sometime later I met him at a party. At first, I didn’t want to play with him, because he was a total dick. But one day, at some concert in a venue called Badabie, … what was the name of that show?

Ha: ‘Record Disaster’.

Kim: That’s right, ‘Record Disaster’. At ‘Record Disaster’, I played in another band, and Heonjin was playing a solo show.

Ha: He came over to me all of a sudden and asked me to let him play the drums; that he wanted to join me.

Kim: I never said that.

Ha: I was supposed to perform alone, and he said that he had memorized all of my songs.

Kim: Not true. I was wandering around alone, and he approached me and begged me to play.

Ha: You said you’d memorized all of my songs.

Kim: Well I had, but that was long ago. “Let’s play together”, he said; that was at the party. But he really was a total dick.

Ha: I remember what really happened. At first, he wasn’t actually interested in playing with me, but as soon as he saw the venue filling up with my fans he soon changed his tune.

Kim: That’s not true! That project band I was playing in was a total mess. We had planned a one-off show called ‘Once’. The idea was that we would all play with only one guitar string, one bass string, one drumstick.

Ha: One string on the guitar.

Kim: And one string on the bass. I think I played the bass back then; anyway…

Ha: It was a total joke, and the audience just didn’t get it at all. I was supposed to play solo, but Ganji asked me if he could play the drums, so I was like, “um, okay.” But he actually did a decent job, and people loved it. The promoter saw that performance and asked us to do it again. Then he posted it on Facebook and titled it Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin. So, we’ve stuck with that name ever since then. We played again and now here we are.



# You two have been together for a while now. The chemistry between you must be great.

Kim: Not really. It’s actually all me. I put all the songs together to make true music.

Ha: He makes all the mess, I clean it up.

Kim: Basically, I make a shitty person look at least ordinary.

Ha: (giggles)


# Your second album was released recently (March 22nd). What kind of stories does this album tell? And, compared to the previous album, what are the stylistic changes?

Ha: Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin started when Ganji joined my solo project. After doing several gigs we got the opportunity to appear on ‘EBS Space’ (a TV program showing bands playing live), and so it grew from there really. If in the past we had done things somewhat underprepared, this time we wanted to do everything more legitimately. I think the first album reflects that. I used to play an acoustic guitar, but once Ganji came in, the overall sound got a lot bigger. At EBS Space, I performed with an acoustic guitar. But as the volume got bigger I changed to the electric guitar. The guitar sound got bigger, but then so did the drums. That battle has continued for a while. I guess the first album is simply the addition of drums to the songs I had already made.

Kim: That’s the first album.

Ha: That was the first album, and right after the release we went on a pretty intensive tour to Japan. We performed for ten days straight; after each performance we hopped on a bus to go to the next venue. From Osaka to Tokyo, and from Tokyo and Kyoto, the tour schedule was simply relentless. That was around that time Ganji started playing the drum part stronger and with a fancier style. It was really eye-opening. I was like, “what the hell is going on? What’s up with this guy?”.

Kim: Japanese audiences can be a little motionless. So I thought, “shit... I will show them the power of kimchi!”

Ha: Our tour dates overlapped with when a big typhoon struck Japan, so there was one day when no one showed up. There were literally two people in the audience, and the rain was pouring down outside. Anyway, the drum sound really carried that day. That was right after the release of our first album. I thought, “okay… something’s changing”. Our sound got bigger and fancier. Originally we didn’t have any solo parts in the songs, but somehow they began to work their way in. Things like these enabled us to really enjoy performing for a few years. We didn’t release any singles in the time in between, so for our second album, we’re simply showcasing what we’ve been up to and the stylistic changes we’ve been through. As for the stories told on our second album…

Kim: The second album represents originality. There had been no delta blues in the Korean scene before, and on the first album we kind of tried to reproduce that sound. I even thought it would be a good idea to use shitty drums to make it more authentic.

Ha: We recorded the album in this very room (the practice space in the label’s office). We just used the drums and amp in here. They actually barely work.

Kim: How many mics did we use? Just one or two, wasn't it?

Ha: Back then I wanted to do one-take recordings of everything, so as to keep the vibe of country-like delta blues music from the American South, although with a Korean twist. But the second album was recorded like a proper studio album. We recorded the drums and guitar separately, and sometimes took several takes.

Kim: Seeing as we had tried to reproduce a certain sound for the first album, we decided to try something new for the second album. We mixed lots of elements together.



# The second album was released nearly five years after the release of the first album. Why did it take so long?

Kim: Honestly… we were having a good time messing about.

Ha: As I just said, for nearly two years we played a lot of shows featuring the songs from our first album. Now that I think about it, we really played a lot. Also, Sultan Of The Disco’s album was released during that time as well.

Kim: Was that after we released our album, or before? I don’t know.

Ha: For two years, as we played a lot together, we both went through many stylistic changes, I think we just enjoyed that process. Also, around that time Sultan Of The Disco got really busy too. We changed a lot around then. I actually began preparing this album a couple of years ago. Honestly, I wanted to take it easy this time around. I usually tend to write music really quickly, almost like making a demo. This time I wanted to go slower and take my time making the album. That’s the first thing. The second thing is that there was a big difference between the recorded songs and the live versions of the songs on the first album. People would sometimes come up and say they liked the album more than our live show. It took a while for me to work out where the middle ground was.

Kim: The recorded versions and live versions of the tracks on the first album are almost like different songs. When we made the first album, we had not really performed together all that much. How we went about recording the album is also interesting. Sultan Of The Disco recorded their album ‘Tang Tang Ball’ in this practice room. We had a jam session booked for after they were finished. Nahzam Sue from Sultan Of The Disco decided to record our jam session, using exactly the same settings as Sultan Of The Disco had just used. Mr. Koh (our label boss) and Nahzam took a listen after we were done, and I guess they really liked it. That’s how we decided to proceed.

Ha: So that’s how our first track ‘Take Care Of Yourself’ was made. It’s a recording of us practicing, but it sounded pretty good. We just went right back in and added the vocals. That’s pretty much how we went about making the whole album.

Kim: Just now I said that we spent a lot of time mucking about after the first album was done,  but actually it was more like time spent finding our style. We were trying to work out if we should make the second album much stronger, like our live show, or if we should tame it down and keep it more like the first album. We thought about adding more instruments to the mix as well. We talked about and tried lots of things. All the while there was loads going on with Sultan Of The Disco as well. We were super busy.

Ha: Ganji was in Korea for two weeks and then he would be abroad for two weeks. His schedule was like that pretty much the whole of last year, so we didn’t really have a chance to work on the album much. We would jam once, then he would go abroad and I would wait for him to come back. It was like that for much of the whole year.


# What does the album title ‘Don’t Want Nothing In This World’ mean?

Ha: Um… so, as the recording session was coming to an end, we both came up with some keywords that represent our sentiments, and the one word we both came up with was ‘distrust.’ Ganji wrote lyrics for two of the tracks, and I did the rest of them. When people usually think of indie music, they expect to be comforted in some way, or they want some kind of healing, but there’s not so much of that in our music. I’m not really that kind of person either. Like the lyrics say, there’s nothing I really want from this world; just stay with me.


# Which track would you recommend the most in this album?

Kim: There’s none I would recommend… I have no idea.

Ha: My personal favorite is ‘Don’t Want Nothing In This World.’ I enjoyed writing it, and I think that it fits in with my personal pursuits quite well. It’s a minimal song and it’s not too long, or too short either. Our individual parts in the song are well organised, there’s nothing weird about the song, and I managed to say everything I wanted to in the lyrics. When we first got everything recorded, I recall that Ganji personally liked the song called ‘Crazy People’.

Kim: But as I listened to it more and more, I got sick of it. Once an album comes out I tend to listen to it all day long.

Ha: Has a week even passed yet? Today is exactly one week, isn’t it?

Kim: Ah, yeah, but I’ve been listening to it since even before it was officially released. I bet I’ve listened to it over 200 times. For ‘Don’t Want Nothing In This World’ we used every instrument we know how to play. He played the guitar and bass, and I played the drums and the keyboard too. I think that could possibly be our next step going forward. That’s why we placed that track at the end of the album. It’s like one of those post-credit scenes in a Marvel movie.


# So what made you decide to choose ‘Emptiness’ as your title track?

Kim: We ran a survey.

Ha: So we made a list of approximately thirty people and sent them the survey. Before we did that I predicted that most people would choose the first track, simply because it was first on the list. Turns out I was right!

Kim: No, I asked them again, and everyone said they really did like the first track the most. Loads of them thought it was the right choice for the title track. He wanted to make ‘Don’t Want Nothing In This World’ as a title track, and I wanted ‘Crazy People’ to be the title track. But we’re living in a democratic country, so ‘Emptiness’ became the title.



# Compared to your other musical activities, what are some of the advantages and difficulties of making music as a two-piece?

Ha: First of all, one of the good points is that since there are only two of us, once the drum recording is done, we are halfway there. Then I can just lay down the guitar and vocals and it’s ready to go. We don’t need to practice too much either, so we get to save time and money.

Kim: The bad thing is that because there are only two of us we need to use our brains a lot more than other bands. If there’s something missing from the song, we need to work out how to fill it up. If there are three people in a band, I think that’s sufficient to not have to use your brains too much. In the case of Bulnabang Star Sausage Club, one member of the band makes a demo with an acoustic guitar, and the rest of the process is easy. The other members just have to jam along to it and flesh it out. However, that’s not the case for us.


# You guys went to Vietnam to shoot a music video recently. Any special stories from that adventure?

Kim: There’s a bunch, like when I dropped my phone off a cliff.

Ha: The real funny thing about that cliff was...

Kim: That cliff was really high and intimidating. Very steep too. And the sand was really soft, so it was very slippery. If you stood still, you would end up slowly sliding all the way down to the edge.

Ha: I got my guitar and moved carefully down the hill. Actually, I kind of slid down the slope. I was really close to the edge. The video doesn’t really show how close to the edge I was, probably because of the lens. When we were done shooting, it was almost impossible to get back up the slope.

Kim: Our opinion was not taken into consideration when making this music video. Well, actually, it was never asked for. It was made for us by a production team we had not worked with before. For all our other music videos, we basically did all the planning. That day, when I stood looking at the cliff, I really didn’t want to do it. I was like, “fuck this”.

Ha: We didn’t expect to shoot the music video in a place like that.

Kim: I thought that they were out of their minds. It was very dangerous.

Ha: They told us that we were going to a desert, so I was, “oh, okay”. But the sand was way softer than expected, and as the slope got steeper and steeper it became more and more slippery. I couldn’t get back up after we finished shooting. After a while, I ditched the guitar and just pulled myself up. Ganji dropping his phone was definitely the most memorable moment, though. The cliff was about five stories high, we found it using a drone.

Kim: They went down the cliff to find it.

Ha: One of the staff members was built like an ox. We would’ve given up on the phone if we had been alone, but he got down and back up with no problem at all.

Kim: When I look at the music video now, I remember how much the shoot sucked. People says it looks so cool to be wearing suits in the middle of a desert, but the fact is, it was scorching hot and super uncomfortable. We had to put stuff in our hair, apply makeup and stuff, all while sweating in the heat.

Ha: Why are you so negative?

Kim: Well, I’m just being honest here… But that doesn’t mean the music video sucks, or the people making it were bad. It’s just that that’s how I felt back then. Now it’s over, and we are all happy.



# What do you think is the best thing about blues music?

Ha: Well… I love blues music so much. I don’t think there’s just one thing I can pick out. Hmm, the best thing? First, it’s very fun to play… ah, I don’t know … you go first. He doesn’t like blues music at all.

Kim: Blues music is the fundamental basis of contemporary music… that’s what the professor told me, when I was studying music. That blues music is the root of all pop music. I don’t know about that, but anyway, the best thing about blues music? I don’t know if blues music is attractive at all. Obviously there’s an attractive point to every music genre, but the attractive point of blues music? It’s quite an ambiguous question, I think. Anything I say will be a cliche.

Ha: Blues music is quite similar to country music and is attached to certain other genres here and there as well. Actually, I think the word ‘country’ is about as vague as the word ‘pop’. If you see a country music chart when funk music is on the rise, it’s all funk music, and when disco is on the rise, it’s all disco music. Blues music is more like a format, and it’s hard to define it as a musical style. It’s related to so many musical genres, such as rock, jazz or funk. If I search for blues music, there are so many results that will come up, loads of documentaries and stuff as well. It’s so much fun, and there’s no end to it. For instance, let’s say I’m a fan of Radiohead. I might listen to all of their albums in order, and watch their live performances on YouTube. However, blues music is very broad, and its style diversifies in many ways. That’s what makes it so much fun to search for and so intriguing. Also, if you are a blues lover, then it’s easy to make friends when you go abroad.


# Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin’s musical roots are in blues music. Is there any other musical genre that you would like to delve into?

Ha: Umm… I do tend to adopt blues into our music as much as I can, and that’s probably why Ganji introduced us as a blues band. However, I don’t necessarily think of us as a blues band, just as a band with a bluesy sound. A lot of bands say they are blues-rock bands, but honestly, I don’t think there are that many pure blues bands around. They derive from a bluesy format. It might sound a bit arrogant, but I personally think that I understand blues music well. I know what kind of music we are aiming for, so I just need to work out how we can keep it modern and relevant to the word we live in today. Our second album actually lacks blues tracks. There are many bluesy elements in it though. I guess we will continue like this, trying to make music that conforms to the current era and trying new things. We try to stay away from the mundane. Also I think it would be nice to keep contributing to an environment where the word ‘blues’ can be used all the time.

Kim: I mentioned that we tried to recreate some old elements in the making of our first album, and I adopted elements from trainbeat or old blues rhythms. I listened to that kind of stuff a lot back then. Mainly because I had to become a team with this guy. We discussed how we could make differences in our music for the second album. I think we adopted many more trendy elements from other areas, such as hip-hop, for example. When our next album comes out, I think there will probably be elements from stuff I am listening to at the moment.



# What music are you guys listening to a lot at the moment? And are there any artists who specifically influenced you while you were making the second album?

Kim: I’ve been listening to our album a lot these days. And John Coltrane. I’m practicing ‘Afro Blue’ on the piano.

Ha: I listen to all sorts of stuff.

Kim: Oh, I’ve been listening to Justice too. It struck me recently, I listen to pretty much everything. If you see my playlist, it might look like my grandmother had made it. Or like someone had just picked stuff with cool artwork. Before I got here today, I listened to Roller Coaster.

Ha: That’s really out of nowhere.

Kim: So true.

Ha: Craig Mack passed away recently. I listen to his music, and Canadian blues guitarist Sue Foley as well. LA Lakers’ point guard Lonzo Ball recently released an album, so I listened to that as well. A while ago I signed up for Apple Music Japan, and listened to Yoshida Minako. She made her debut in the 70s, and her early albums are great. It is like the pop version of Smokey Robinson, Jeff Beck or Herbie Hancock. Kinda 70’s fusion-influenced pop music. It’s really cool. The stuff I listen to is pretty varied and inconsistent as well. Let’s see, what did I listen to while making the album?

Kim: More than listening to lots of music while we were making the album, we referenced a lot of stuff I think.

Ha: Is that so?

Kim: Yeah, like that time we talked about making our rhythm a bit more like a Steely Dan rhythm.

Ha: I listened to T-Bone Walker a lot while working on the album. I applied some of his style to the guitar riffs. Led Zeppelin, I listen to them almost everyday. There’s a track on which I imitated some Led Zeppelin for sure.

Kim: For this album, we used a floor tom quite a lot. I got the idea to do that from listening to a lot of metal music. Pantera and Metallica. I think Tool is the best.

Ha: It’s the streaming era. I listen to what I click on, so it will be endless to list the artists.

Kim: But the proportion of listening to new music is definitely decreasing. In the old days, sometimes I listened to only new songs, but now, it’s such fun to listen to old songs too.


# Do you have any fun stories to tell from your gigs?

Ha: There’s two that I can think of. We went on a tour of Japan and in the first few days there was a massive typhoon. As a result, almost no one came to the venue. An old guy wearing a suit was there, probably older than my dad. He came to us and bought us dumplings and beer.

Kim: Do you know why he bought them for us? So, I was on my way to buy cigarettes, and I asked him where the closest convenience store was. We talked on our way, and he told me that he was a fan of WeDance of Korea. Around that time, I had worked with WeDance for their album, so I showed him that. He loved it so much, that he said he was going to buy us everything. That’s what happened.

Ha: Actually, that wasn’t the story that I was going to tell. Near the end of our Japan tour we performed in Kobe, and that is when Ganji started getting all heavy and fancy on the drums.

Kim: That’s because someone told me that venue was best known for heavy music.

Ha: We played at a venue called ‘Heruba Lounge.’ While performing, I saw someone so drunk that he fell while dancing. It was very impressive. Usually in Korea when bands play a gig, they need to force the audience to move around or sing along. We don’t do that, so sometimes the people in the audience just seem to be looking at their phones all the time while we perform. But that day, everyone went insane, they were all dancing and one of them fell down, so drunk. That was very impressive for me to see, and that was the point when I thought, “I guess this is how we should proceed from now on”. I think that triggered the style for our second album. So, that for me is one of the most memorable moments.

Another memorable moment for me is from when we played at Strange Fruit once. Whenever I was about to sing, I couldn’t hear my guitar sound. Something kept malfunctioning. I was so enraged that I threw my guitar to the ground. Like ‘fuxk this…’ That was a very expensive guitar, by the way. Later I found out that the multi-tab power strip was loose. That’s why it worked, then did not work. I didn’t realize that, so I threw my guitar. I looked back, and Ganji gave me that ‘what the fuck?’ face.

Kim: Why did you throw it to the ground?

Ha: Because the sound kept going off. The people there looked dumbfounded, so I picked up the guitar and just carried on playing the show as if nothing had happened. Honestly, it was quite embarrassing. I plugged the power strip into the other wall, and it worked perfectly fine. Byeongjoo of Lowdown 30 was chuckling in the corner. Anyway, I was actually so pissed off I almost couldn't carry on with the show. So those two are some of the special moments from our gigging stories.

Kim: There’s so many, but I can’t think of one. All I can remember is that I was short of breath while performing. When we play a gig these days, there are multiple incidences when a pedal breaks, snares rip, or cymbals fall down everywhere. We’ve gotten used to these things. In the case of Jebidabang, the drum set is actually not for performance. It’s more like a travelers’ set for street performances, but I still use it anyway. Sometimes when things are not going so well, I do some random things, like hitting a wall with a stick. I first did that in Japan, in a tiny venue.

Ha: That was in a cafe. ‘Rosie.’

Kim: As I recall, there were only three parts to the drum set. There was a bass drum, a snare and a hi hat. I had to perform using only those three parts, but still, I had to fill up the venue with sound. I hit the wall, floor, whatever I could. At one point I even hit Heonjin’s guitar.

Ha: That guitar is unusable now. The fret is all broken.

Kim: Those sorts of episodes are pretty frequent. We got so used to shabby gear that it doesn’t matter anymore.


# How do you spend your leisure time, other than making or listening to music?

Kim: We both like playing games. I like reading books, writing poems…

Ha: Bullshit.

Kim: Growing plants, riding horses, oh... and golf sometimes! Honestly, pretty much everything other than reading books is bullshit. I like playing blockbuster online games, and he likes to play offline games alone.

Ha: I’ve been playing NBA 2k for years. These days the users make leagues of their own. With Korean users, we decide who will be the owner of the club, make picks, like the real league. If I start playing this week, playoffs will begin next week. I’m so into it these days. Basically I play NBA everyday, and some other offline games. Online games are so confusing and hectic.


# Would you recommend any books from among those you’ve read?

Kim: I’m currently digging into a book called ‘Aversion’ from the Micro-Humanities series. It’s quite intriguing. And it looks snazzy if I bring it and read it in places like the subway. People will be like, “wow, that guy is reading a book! How cool is he!”

Ha: That’s for Instagram. I bet you threw the book away after taking a picture of it.

Kim: No, it’s still at home. I probably should take another picture of it though.


# Ganji has been active in the fashion scene under the name ‘Alexander Wang Gichun.’ Your design motto was ‘a silver coin to a friend, and a bullet to an enemy.’ Could you briefly explain the meaning of that?

Kim: That’s a line from a TV series called ‘Narcos’. Whenever the protagonist threatens Colombian gang members, he says, “if you can hear me, remember what I say. A silver coin to a friend, and a bullet to an enemy”. How cool is that? But it’s all bullshit, I know that. I love bullshit things. That’s what we do in live performances.


Source: BEM Twitter


# Heonjin started blogging, and from your very first post, it went viral. Do you have any tips for wannabe bloggers?

Ha: Advice? Don’t do it. It’s tiresome…

Kim: Do people still blog?

Ha: Okay, if there’s one tip, it’s that you need to take pictures very diligently. Like almost all day, every day. You know when you are using the computer and it goes a bit weird, you get some extra screens popping up? If you search for that program on Google to see if it’s a virus or something, it will immediately tell you what it is. If you search on Korean search engines, it will come up with something like this: “today, let’s learn about (insert program name here)”. So you click and end up in some kind of rabbit hole, never learning what you wanted to learn, just a load of rubbish. After years of getting pissed off by these kind of blog posts, the original intention of my blog was to make a joke out of them. However, somehow I really got into it. So for a while, I was very active, but like I said, it was very tiresome and time-consuming, so I don’t do it so much at the moment. For the most recent post, I only did it because my boss told me do it. That post barely has any interesting information in it. It took me around two hours to write that one post, but it barely takes a minute or two to read the entire thing. That’s my kind of motto for the blog, a meaningless Korean-style blog. I just wanted to give it a go. If you want tips, it is probably best to check out someone else's blog.

Link to Heonjin Ha's Blog


# Ganji’s Twitter bio says, ‘a real man follows nobody.’ But as I see, you are following more than 400 people on Instagram. What’s up with that?

Kim: Actually, I’m little illiterate at technology. I always join social network services late, and I don’t post until much later. I need some time to get used to something, and that’s why I made my Twitter account so slowly. I didn’t follow anyone at first because I didn’t know how to, and what that was. One day, someone introduced me on his Twitter account, and there he said, “damn, he isn’t following anyone; what a man!” Since then, I made that my Twitter concept - ‘a real man follows nobody.’ Also, I didn’t really like the connotation of the word ‘follow.’ Now, I regret it. If I had interacted with people, it would have probably been quite good fun. I use Instagram like everyone else, just to look at my friends’ pictures.


# You are both well known as witty jokers around the Hongdae music scene. How do you evaluate each other in that field? Is there any synergy when you guys are together?

Ha: He is very good. Very professional.

Kim: They all mean nothing. I spit out jokes like a bad habit.

Ha: We don’t prepare anything at all, even up on stage. There barely is any logic.

Kim: And he gives it back pretty well too.

Ha: When a performance ends, we just say ‘good job’ to each other, and forget everything that happened on stage. We don’t say anything just before going up on stage either. We are just a good match for each other I think. We don’t need to think much when we’re together as we fit together so well. I think we are very professional too. We leave it all on the stage. If we play a gig with someone who is timid, I bet that person will send us a message saying, “hey, I think that was a bit mean!”

Kim: That’s how we talk to each other in daily life too.

Ha: People often think that we are having a quarrel. At the after parties sometimes people get a bit worried about us.

Kim: Some people take the banter too seriously; after they show they ask us it it was real and if we are ok. But it’s all bullshit, we don’t even remember what we talked about once the show is done.

Ha: We don’t put any any meaning to those moments.

Kim: Yes, it’s just that I need to take a time to breathe after playing a song, but if we say nothing, I think that is a poor stage presence.

Ha: If Michael Jackson stood still and said nothing, people would still applaud. If we do that, people will start shouting and swearing at us.


# When will you guys break up?

Kim: We have already undergone over 250 breakup moments, and I think we will probably break up again tomorrow.

Ha: Our showcase concert that is coming up will be our very last one. If you don’t come to our concert, there’ll be no more Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin concerts in the future.

Kim: We never know when we will break up. Nothing is forever though.

Ha: True.

Kim: Those streaming services will one day go broke. I heard using cloud data destroys the rainforest in the Amazon. For real.

Ha: Is that so?

Kim: Yes, even sending a message destroys the environment.

Ha: You waste oxygen just by speaking.

Kim: Yes. That’s the logic behind radical environmentalists. As you are typing on your computer, the data will automatically backup. That all wears out our environment. We are all criminals. That’s why we don’t know when we will break up.


# What is Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin’s ambition?

Ha: Ambition? I wish we could perform our second album at a rock festival. Ganji doesn’t aspire to perform at rock festivals though.

Kim: Because I always appear at rock festivals already.

Ha: Asshole.

Kim: I’m sick of rock festivals.

Ha: I just want our second album to sell more than our first. I want it to be better than the first. People say the second album is always the hardest, don’t they. Because of that we spent ages on the second album. If it’s just the same as the first album, then all that time and effort was for nothing. If the second album does well, perhaps we can appear at some rock festivals too! I hope that we grow and get to do more cool things with the second album.

Kim: I want that too. But there’s two types of listeners these days, active listener and passive listener. If someone listens to our music actively, he might find something in our music. I hope people actively listen to our stuff. They might discover and realize something new. Our name is Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin. ‘X’ is being used a lot in the music scene these days. I didn’t know the letter ‘x’ represented collaboration. At first, I thought Daham Park, the person who named us, had come up with something insanely original. But it turned out that that was not the case. At first, people thought of us as some kind of project band. We also told everyone that we would probably break up sometime soon. For our second album, I wish we could really ensconce ourselves as a two-piece band.



Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin 2nd Album Release Concert 'Kim Ha Show 2'

Date: 4.21 (SAT) 7PM
Venue: Hongdae Veloso (Seogyo-dong 372-6)
Ticket: advance 33,000won / at door 39,000won
Ticket in advance : Melon Ticket /



Kim Ganji x Ha Heonjin
Don't Want Nothing In This World (Album)

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Interview : Robin YeongGuk Jo, Chae Yeon Park, Jung Ha Lim
English Translation : Robin YeongGuk Jo
Edited by : Patrick Connor, Rock 'N' Rose


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